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Jun. 21st, 2006

Girl gets what she really wants from guy on MySpace: sex. Parents sue... MySpace!?!?

This is rediculous: I expect a 14 year old to be naive and stupid when it comes to meeting people met online, but the parents, I expect better from. We've all been here before, with parents too stupid to watch their kids so they sue over it, but this is out of hand now. It's like some ambulance chaser chased the kid to the hospital to get her rape kit, to tell the parents their rights, while thinking "I've been WAITING for this! :D".

MySpace doesn't do enough to protect minors? They do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to protect minors! They're one of the leading authorities when it comes to protecting people! They've written software! They flag profiles! Yes, the site really does suck (unless you are looking for musicians), and it's also horribly coded, but the one thing it DOES do right, within it's power, is security! The few isolated cases should never override the millions and millions of times they've been right! "They fail in their duty to protect minors." Does that mean that I can sue her dipshit, ignorant parents for failing in THEIR duty to protect this minor?

MySpace does not verify the ages of it's users, except for it's own software, no. But that's impossible for a site that has under 18 members in the first place! The youngest you can be to have a public profile is 16; for a private, it's 14, but once you friend someone, they can see everything (that's the one thing I'd change). COPPA has been doing it's job since it's been out; do we really need to raise the COPPA age to 16? The only way to verify that someone is not underage (16 in the case of MySpace) is by making them show ID, or a credit card (18 and up); at that point, it's no better than some porn sites. And it's also basically telling children that they are not responsible for their own actions, online and offline, and neither are their parents. I am not comfortable with this, and maybe it's a good reason why violence in schools against teachers and other authority figures has gone up (oh, and the teacher can't whap the fucker that hits him, either; another reason I said no to teaching).

I did an experiment: first, I read MySpace's TOS, which plainly says that you have to be at least 14 (they COULD put it on the sign-up page, though; make them at least scroll it). You have to check a box, but you can't have a binding contract with a teenager, even if the dumb cunt is lying. But this is what I did: I tried creating an account with the name Johnny Appleseed, with a birthday of May 23, 1993 (13); everything else was accurate. They told me no, can't sign up. OK, change the birthday to May 23, 1991 (making Johnny 15). STILL denied! OK, so I'll try again... sign up Jimmy Swaggart, different email (from superbus19@yahoo.com to jimmyswaggart35@gmail.com), year older (May 23, 1990). STILL DENIED! They knew I was trying to circumvent their system, and have me locked down! Now, I'll try again later, from this computer, but the fact remains: they're not stupid.

The best they could do to compromise is have parents send in permission slips if the kid's under 16, the way I have people do at FESS if they're under 13. But it will work about as well as our policy does; for every one legit COPPA I see, I ban 10 violations. That, and it will cut the memberbase significantly, and really, once kids know the policy, they'll pretend they're 18, just like now.

In the meantime, parents need to watch their fucking kids.

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sorakh28
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
HOLY FUCK.

THERE'S BATSHIT, THEN THERE'S BATSHIT. THIS IS THE OMGWTFBBQ KIND OF BATSHIT CRAZYNESS ONLY EXPRESSED IN CAPS LIKE SARA DID ONCE IN FANDOM WANK FOUND IN WANKPEDIA.

FUUUUUCK.
sorakh28
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC)
IN FACT, THIS DESERVES BOTH MY WTF ICONS.
sorakh28
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:10 pm (UTC)
SHIT THE LOKI STUFF, LET'S ADD MY OTHER, MORE DRAMATIC ONE.

HOLY FUCK.
sam767
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:21 pm (UTC)
Well said. MySpace is just ugh...stupid...and there are far too many stalkers. , it's pretty retarded. :/
"MySpace is more concerned about making money than protecting children online."

How does MySpace make money. I was under the impression that there accounts were free...they have paid accounts too?
kirbymasterchef
Jun. 21st, 2006 09:37 pm (UTC)
They make money off of the dozen ads featured on the site.
sarajayechan
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:23 pm (UTC)
Right, some girl did a stupid ass thing and her parents are gonna sue MySpace instead of, I dunno, GROUNDING HER AND BANNING HER FROM THE INTERNET?!

What bullshit.
dtn
Jun. 21st, 2006 04:31 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure who's more stupid. MySpace, the child, or her parents. What the fuck.
morinzilion
Jun. 21st, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC)
A story like this comes out like, what, once every 4~5 months?

It seems like nothing new... Parents sueing a company because they don't babsit their kids. So much Bullshhiiiiiit.
samuraiter
Jun. 21st, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC)
I'd like to say that I'm surprised by this case against My Space, but, really, I'm not.
yubsie
Jun. 21st, 2006 08:33 pm (UTC)
Because, of course, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. -_-
kirbymasterchef
Jun. 21st, 2006 09:37 pm (UTC)
Of course. You always need a scapegoat when your own parenting is incompetent.
dmajohnson
Jun. 21st, 2006 09:48 pm (UTC)
It's like when a police chase happens nowdays. Instead of suing the criminal, they sue the police. Probably because the police have more $$$. Lovely.
punksteriot
Jun. 21st, 2006 10:07 pm (UTC)
I wish I'd read my LJ friends page while I was at work today. I was assigned an article about people's reaction to the MySpace lawsuit and the subsequent MySpace security changes. Would have liked to interview you for it.
superbus
Jun. 21st, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
That sucks... still need it? I have a credible enough background.
punksteriot
Jun. 22nd, 2006 05:03 am (UTC)
Nah the article moved in mid-afternoon. I'll keep you in mind in the future though.
co_raptor
Jun. 22nd, 2006 11:57 am (UTC)
Coincidentally, I had a conversation with my parents about a similar topic since my little sister is starting to use the 'net nowadays.

They came to me because of my experience with message boards. As in "they've seen me at FESS for over two years and finally found out it hasn't made me a worse person so I must've been doing SOMETHING right."

But yeah, I talked about different kinds of sites, chatrooms, message boards, IM service and the way they work and their respective risks, and told them that the best way to keep things safe was just to inform her of the dangers in clear way.

And they agreed. Yep, I like my parents.
sorakh28
Jun. 22nd, 2006 01:47 pm (UTC)
That's kind of you for helping your little sister, Raptor.
coutureforyou
Jun. 22nd, 2006 04:05 pm (UTC)
Aww, what a helpful big brother. I miss my big brother sometimes.

I'm the youngest one out of all of my siblings and 1st cousins, but I'm 18 now so that shouldn't matter anymore. But is it kind of sad when my mom occasionally comes up to me, like.. "I saw MySpace on the news again. I don't like that place, you know that there are predators online? You need to stop using that little MySpace and don't talk to people yo u don't know."

Kind of makes me feel bad because why does she think I'm all like, "Ooh, that guy is cute. I need to talk to him I need to get with that guy over there, girl.." I don't even use MySpace. 18 matters nothing to her. --;

But yeah, their parents should punish the girl rather than try to sue MySpace. It's not like MySpace can detect who's good and who's dangerous.
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