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God Motherfucking Damnit

So apparently, the Virtual Console is useless?

I have three games - one that used to work - that will no longer work because my TV (19" Envision HDTV) gives an "OUT OF FREQUENCY" error when I try to play them (so far, those titles are Baseball Stars 2, Super Mario Bros., and SMB2: Lost Levels). I'm running on component cables, and while I'm sure I could switch the component cables for A/V, that would defeat the purpose of owning $40 component cables in the first place (namely, to play my games in somewhat sharp 480i).

Anyone have any ideas? Between this, and the memory management issues I'm having, this is making me a very unhappy motor vehicle.

EDIT: It should be noted that 1) SMB2 used to work, and 2) These are the only games I know are having problems. I can get out of the issue by hitting the Home button, but then, I have to take it back to the Wii menu.

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ext_23616
Feb. 12th, 2008 01:39 pm (UTC)
None of the SNK games on the VC work in Hi-Def. it even gives you a warning about that in the info about the game and there's a thing on Nintendo's website how to make them show up if your TV is set to HD.

You can't upconvert a lot of old games. That's simply how it is, either on the original system or through the VC emulation.
rantmaster_mark
Feb. 12th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
RE: DRM-ed save games: nope, you're fucked.

Most of the games that are locked out are games that either are playable online or have some level of online functionality (NiGHTS and RRR2 upload your high-scores, for example), thus fucking you over by not allowing you to copy games. Most of the games I've played so far don't do this thing, but yeah... you're either going to be buying some kind of third-party device or you're going to have to leave the saves wherever they came from. That's how I lost all my Trauma Center New Blood data, so believe me, I feel your frothy rage.

Zack and Wiki can be copied and it's cheap now. Play that?
superbus
Feb. 13th, 2008 01:52 am (UTC)
It's not the Wii save data I want to move - the Gamecube's memory issues are bothering me more - but it's the channels, or more specifically, the 287 block Sin and Punishment, the 243 block Paper Mario, etc. Those are the ones that have to go to the SD card.

I'm intending on picking up Zack and Wiki soon; don't know if I want to get it before or after Endless Ocean.
rantmaster_mark
Feb. 13th, 2008 02:00 am (UTC)
Ah. Well in that case it's equivalent to the 360 DRM, in that you have to be the owner of the product in order to play it. And I dunno why it's claiming it can't copy them, as I was able to do this thing... I dunno.

It's supposedly $20 now, so I'd say either-or. I like them both for entirely different reasons, so I can't really make an informed suggestion one way or the other.
burning_phoneix
Feb. 12th, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
480i isn't all that much of an improvement over SD anyway so switching out the component cables for those VC games and switching them back for regular games seems to be your only option ;__;
dmajohnson
Feb. 12th, 2008 09:37 pm (UTC)
480 interlaced is SD. -_-
burning_phoneix
Feb. 12th, 2008 10:28 pm (UTC)
wait....why would you need component cables for those?
superbus
Feb. 13th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC)
Because going over standard A/V on an HDTV makes the signal WORSE.
rantmaster_mark
Feb. 13th, 2008 01:57 am (UTC)
Also, because component cables allow the Wii to display in 480p, which is why you're having display issues.
burning_phoneix
Feb. 13th, 2008 01:22 pm (UTC)
Okay. let's see if I got this straight...you're using component cables to get a clean SDTV signal on an HDTV.

Then...why not just play in 480p?

I'm missing something here aren't I? :(
samuraiter
Feb. 12th, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
You're having a problem similar to what I had to solve with the mini-TV, 'Bus. HD may be the wave of the future, but there's quite the assload of compatibility problems. Perhaps buy a cheap standard TV?
otosaretatenshi
Feb. 13th, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
I believe you're the most sensible man on this damn thing. XD Just buy a cheap standard TV and use it to play those games. Old software requires old hardware, afterall.
superbus
Feb. 14th, 2008 05:06 am (UTC)
... Wha? What? A whole new TV for a system that is supposed to be played on an HDTV in the first place? Moving hardware and cables between TVs? Mind you, I intend on using an older TV in the first place, but for REALLY old hardware, like the NES and Genesis. Maybe the Dreamcast.

No. No, no, no. It's bad enough I had to buy component cables in the first place, I will not use separate hardware for something that should have been adjusted for in the first place.

They want me to not only buy the games (again!), but move all sorts of shit around to play it? Better idea. How about I not spend another fucking cent in the Virtual Console, and go back to emulating my games? THAT'S sensible.
otosaretatenshi
Feb. 14th, 2008 06:03 am (UTC)
You're incorrect there, the Wii is specifically NOT designed for high end TVs. They even stated that at E3, their focus was gameplay, NOT graphics, unlike everyone else and their brother.
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