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Did Obama just invoke Godwin's Law?

EDIT: Can I make a dry joke without the Hounds of the Baskervilles descending upon me?

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willfor_iv
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)
What is with people and Godwin's law? Hitler. Hitler. Nazies. Jewish people.

THIS ENTRY IS NOW OFFLIMITS TO CIVILISED DISCUSSION DUE TO AN ARBITRARY RULE MADE BY PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO HOTHEADED.
shotglass
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:18 am (UTC)
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't understand why people except maybe direct descendants of those involved (not just the Jews, either :\) get so upset about it. It was a historical event. A really regrettable, terrible one, but it's not as though not talking about it and not drawing comparisons to it will make it all better.
willfor_iv
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:24 am (UTC)
Maybe I just prefer more toned down, friendly debates in my old age (I am almost ancient by JRPG standards...), but I don't think there should be any subjects that just plain shut down discussions so long as both parties are willing to discuss them on civil terms.
shotglass
Oct. 8th, 2008 02:40 am (UTC)
In general, it irritates me that people will treat certain subjects as though they just Cannot Be Discussed or else the one bringing them up is an insensitive clod. There actually are things that are bad enough to be compared to what happened in Germany, and in other cases, so long as we're not being flip about it, it's possible to draw parallels from Nazi-ism to other things that make good, rational sense. What confuses me is that these people will then talk about Stalin's policies or Mao's policies without flinching. Hitler's just that special of a little snowflake? Really?

But my god, civil discussions... They seem next to impossible on the internet unless you're only talking to a closed group of people who are all fairly civil themselves.
otosaretatenshi
Oct. 8th, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
Hitler's little mustache makes him special.
samuraiter
Oct. 9th, 2008 12:44 am (UTC)
(I am almost ancient by JRPG standards...)

You're 15, Willfor?
willfor_iv
Oct. 9th, 2008 12:54 am (UTC)
I will be 23 this coming monday.
shotglass
Oct. 8th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
I wasn't actually referencing this post so much (I was fairly sure you were being a bit snarky, there), but willfor_iv's comment then put it into that context and... Ahaha, sorry -- I hadn't meant to make it look as though I was upset about it.

Of all people, I'd be surprised at you getting your knickers in a twist over Godwin's being invoked. You seem pretty level-headed rather than "OH MAI GAWD, HOW COULD YOU BE SO INSENSITIVE!!!"
superbus
Oct. 8th, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC)
I basically made the comment as a dry annotation, because Palin did the same thing in the VP debate, which set of my friends' page to "GODWIN'S LAW!!!" posts. I thought the irony was a bit delicious. Then Will reacted, and it went downhill from there.

Me? I don't care, and make jokes about everything, wherever I feel like it. That goes over well at work. I mean, check my icons! Just they should be indicative of where I stand on just about every "sensitive" issue.

"I can prove to you that rape is funny: picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd!"
willfor_iv
Oct. 8th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
I only reacted the way I did because I thought it was the start of another round of it. I'm sorry if I didn't understand your intentions at first.
superbus
Oct. 8th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
Looking back, I can see why you would think that; not necessarily because it's my M.O. (it's not), but because you're right, a lot of people reflexively overreact to things that they have been taught are BAD via society. It's OK to joke about slavery, but not the Holocaust, to a lot of people, as one example.

I have some very dear, just and loved friends that get very offended if I were to tell a Jewish joke of any kind, but in most of those cases, they're at least Jewish, so I adjust for them. But I can see why you would see the righteous indignation coming. It's cool.
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lordglenn
Oct. 8th, 2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
McCain mentioned it near the very end of the debate when the question from the audience was posed about Iran and Israel.
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lordglenn
Oct. 9th, 2008 12:28 am (UTC)
I have no idea. I only caught the tail end of the debate, since I was finishing up classwork that was due today.
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